Wednesday, May 2, 2007

Moral Policing

India is becoming a country full of people who want to poke their nose in what someone else does in their day to day life. We want to judge people on what they do and what they don't do.

Freedom of speech is gagged upon by the lower judiciary where some "Yuke Yuke"s file frivolous law suits when Kushboo talks about pre-marital sex or when suhasini supports kushboo or when Richard Gere kisses Shilpa.

These lawsuits are a national shame. I don't blame the litigants and everyone knows that they are filed only to intimidate the opponent or to gain fame.

A Judge who decides to entertain such law suits goes against the spirit of democracy. A citizen's freedom is in their hands and they have the potential to take away such a precious right what makes it very dangerous. The Indian Judiciary high command should wake up and fire those magistrates who "did not apply their mind" while deciding to accept the lawsuits that gags upon freedom of speech.

May be there should be a book titled "Indian Constitution for Dummies" and should be given to all the Judges in the Indian Judiciary.

On a personal note, it is everyone's right to say the first thing that comes from their mouth. Everyone has the right to criticize what is said and I have the right to say whatever I want to say but no body has the right to suppress it.

12 comments:

Pistu said...

The bad part is when people come and ask me about whether Richard Gere will be arrested if he went back to India and I have to explain to them... I did the explaining at the doctors office, at a restaurant...

Driver said...

pistu & sriram:
if something is illegal (like showing public display of affection in India by law) it shud be obeyed. If u go and take a leak on the side of a freeway here, you will be imprisoned. It might sound "OK" to you but not under the law. If someone breaks the law, he/she has to face the price.
On the other hand, I hate to talk in support of the same (though I already did!) as the news is worthless and nonsensical.

PasserBy said...

Organic farmers in USA demanded that the US Consumer should know if he/she is consuming food which are ("Maufactured" )Genetically Modified(GM). They wanted a LABEL which INFORMS the cosnumer. Lable saying "Genetically Modified". Guess what the US courts turned it down.

As they lost the case, Organic Farmers started printing labels on their produce saying that they are "ORGANIC FOODS". Guess what again! The GM manufacturers filed a suite that it damages their business as it is "already" proved (or not proved), that the GM foods have "Effects" unlike organic foods. They wanted NO LABELING to be done, and hey they won the case again.

A US Citizen is thus DENIED the BASIC RIGHTS to know what he/she eats and how it is made?!!

This is one of a thousands of issues that are present in the "MOST ADVANCED NATION", which IMAGINES that they enjoy "FREEDOM" when they dont have the basic freedom. NATIONAL PRIDE FOR USA?!!! Isn't this even more dangerous than as said in the article?!!

Well the point is, every country goes through a phase of growth, and India, in its attempt to grow, CANNOT AFFORD TO MIMIC others. That too with little knowledge of why and how the other's managed to do things. THAT IS DANGEROUS!!

We were ahead of the world (once upon a time), but we DENY to accept that. We REFUSE to check our history. We REFUSE to be PROUD of ourselves. That reflects in articles.

Sriram:
No one supresses your rights. You enjoy it as well as anybody else.
But remember,
அவையறியார் சொல்லல்மேற் கொள்பவர் சொல்லின்
வகையறியார் வல்லதூஉம் இல்.

Driver:
We all need "Sensation" in one way or other. Your post "OH NO" tells why.

The point that I try to pass through in replies is to tell that "BE AWARE OF WHAT YOU WRITE. BE RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT YOU WRITE".

When you write HEAVY TOPICS taking it as "ENTERTAINMENT" is something very similar to our TV Channels.

I'm sure Sriram will say that "I'M IMPOSING MY IDEAS" or somehting close to that?!!!!!

We are so short-lived and short-memoried in anything that we do and lean, and so we want to "ENJOY" and "FORGET".

The day when Indians feel proud of their country, (remember there is NO RIGHT AND NO WRONG), India can "COMMAND RESPECT".

And again driver, it is NOT kudumipudi sandai at all :-). I'm just trying to see we ALL can elevate ourselves to the next level of writing THOUGHT & ACTION PROVOKING BLOGS rather than just writing them because we want to use it as a punching bag!!!

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

Agreed, one can talk anything that one wishes to. But there should be certain limitations like say, it should not originate antagonism, should not hurt others there by pulling the person for a fight and so on.. I guess these laws are based on the above facts! And i feel nothing wrong about it.

May it be Kushboos issue or Richards issue, it was offending and ofcourse both were blown beyond the limit!

Sriram Varadharajan said...

Driver,
First of all no Indian law is broken, because the high court tossed off the suit. So nobody broke the law.

My opinion is critical of those junior judges and not the litigants and not even the action. I did not say what is done, is right or wrong! A citizen's freedom is at stake because these judges have the right to imprison someone until further appeal.

Passerby,
No one is India bashing here. You have compared apples with oranges. Get your facts straight, all of the organic food items in the US, has a "USDA Organic" stamp. And by the way, talking about the history will not help.
So, I give it back to you.
"BE AWARE OF WHAT YOU WRITE. BE RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT YOU WRITE"

Ponnarasi,
Sorry I can not agree.

Rangarajan said...

USDA Organic allows products that are Genetically Enigneered, nuclear irradiation, sewage sludge, intensive confinment of farm animals and host of other "Non-Organic" stuff. So US Citizens are still NOT Aware that they cosume "Toxic Ingrediants".

So it proves the point that people are NOT aware of what they are eating, and in fact MISLEAD.

I accept that I have little knowledge on US policies and guidelines, but the point that I wanted to make is that there are MORE SERIOUS issues that one can take on rather than talking about and getting yourself HIJACKED with USELESS SENSATIONAL news to increase TRP ratings (Dont know if there is one such for blogs :-p).

India is having lot more serious issues. Just because a few people who have access to media say that they are MORAL police, does not mean they are significant. And we need not "MAKE SURE" that they are "AND GIVE THEM CONFIDENCE" that they are?!!!! Isnt that what we are doing. Just IGNORE THEM.

Coming to history, looking up on history will help a lot. It will help us NOT TO REINVENT things that has already been done. It will help us to be proud of what we have achieved. It will open our eyes up to "FACTS" and tell us that we need to LEARN more about ourselves before starting to advertise that other's are good or for that matter bad.

I agree with you in saying that TALKING ABOUT HISTORY WILL NOT HELP. That wont help. 100% agreed.

But to take INSPIRATION from history will HELP. Unfortunately the possibility of getting an INSPIRATION is never even given a thought.

Feeling PROUD about the history and constantly trying to DISCOVER how they achieved will help us GAIN confidence. That can be a starting point for many of us.

That will definitely help us come out of our "Inferiority Complex" and help us start DEFENDING our country and its culture, rather than sitting in some one else's country and DEFENDING that they HAVE GOT ALL THINGS RIGHT!! and India is filled with filthy politicians. That is in fact India bashing!!!!!

Aericans were able to do achieve what they have achieved because almost every AMERICAN is PROUD of being so. No matter what the govt does. Be it a controversial war, or controversial disaster management, be it color discrimination, they still beleive that they are AMERICANS and they take their strength right from there.

To conclude please DO CONCENTRATE on issues that are "IMPORTANT". (Hold on, I know the word important is relative when you look at it Inividually and not as a community.)

I did not compare apples and oranges. I did however compare apples and junk. Important news should not be taken lightly.

Let's spend our time that we spend in front of the "FACELESS" community that we write in to something useful and that can make a difference.

I am sure you are an intelligent and intellectual (young) man, and if only more of people like yourself, start writing and thus EDUCATING people on what thigns are we would be in a different level as a country.

Many times we under estimate our power. Let's realize it and start being serious. Let's keep trying. Soon we can start achieve.

Good luck.

Sriram Varadharajan said...

Passerby,
Stressing on a point repeatedly does not make it the truth. You are wrong about the "Toxic Ingredients"(as mentioned by you) on Organic food.

I was referring to the possibility of an Indian citizen's freedom at stake,may be that is not more serious issue for you.

When India started being a republic by mentioning "We the people of India...." to adopt a constitution. If that is not serious enough, I am not sure what else could be construed as serious.

Read my opinion again, there is no mention about America or Americans either in favor or against. And there is no mention about filthy Indian politicians. You are hallucinating.

You gave the "American connection" by posting your first comment.

Rangarajan said...

The issue about GM and Organic in USA was to say that a superpower (also democratic) country denies the basic rights.

So, it is just to tell you that every country hsa the same problem not only India, and Indians shoudl concentrate on more serious problem than Kushboo talking in public or Richard Gere's sensational act in public.

The fact of the matter is that NO ONE LOST ANY FREEDOM!!! Just as in a democracy you have the right of speech, some one has the right to file a lawsuit. By filing a lawsuit if you conclude that the person who filed the lawsuit enjoys more freedom then what can I say!!!!

Why tie up a minor issue somewhere in a corner just because she was a famous person in the country with "Freedom of speech" and talk about "MORAL POLICING"?!!! She did say what she wanted to say right?!

That's what is called "Sensationalising" a news.

I did give a connection to American issues true, but that is to prove a point - more serious things deserve an argument. And you seem have a "OPINION" on the example as well ;-). (Boy, you enjoy your freedom of speech :-). That's a joke. )

Sriram Varadharajan said...

Passerby,
You are stereotyping the incident again. First you said I was India bashing, then you mentioned that America also has problems, then you are now concluding that it is news sensationalism.

I am not sure what gets you the grudge. I did not say that kushboo, suhasini and shilpa have done something wrong. Nor did I say that the litigants have done something wrong.

I have stressed the point that a citizen's freedom is at stake. Everyone has the freedom of speech and everyone has the right to file a law suit. But only the judge to whom the case gets posted has the right to accept or dismiss the suit.

If a lower court judge admits such a suit and a high court judge tosses it out, that means someone is not adhering to the Indian constitution.

I know you can not dismiss this point because you never spoke for or against it, in any of your comments.

Driver said...

Sriram:
If a lower court judge admits such a suit and a high court judge tosses it out, that means someone is not adhering to the Indian constitution.
Then why have such a staged judiciary system in the first place? Your interpretation of the judiciary system is flawed. The same rule applies to all and any worthwhile or worthless cases.

Sriram Varadharajan said...

Driver,

I don't understand your statement. My argument is not specific to this case in particular.

The levels in a judiciary system is to escalate a suit to get natural justice. Guilty or Non guilty judgment just means a law is interpreted in a specific way by the judges. But constitution is above all laws and has to be interpreted in total by all the judges.

In this case which was accepted to be adjudicated by a lower court and thrown out by a high court in support of a "constitutional" provision, is outrageous and it means a non-zealous mind at work at the lower judiciary.

Rangarajan said...

Driver/Sriram

Precisely what I'm trying to say. What's the point you both are trying to prove?!!

Can I tell you what you are trying to prove or have already proven?! Taking up topics like Moral Policing, Minor Prostitution is NOTHING BUT TALKING BIG.

By picking up BIG topics, we satisfy our ego. By blaming the Indian Govt. the judiciary, the politicians, the streets, the what not in India, we are only throwing our frustration.

With just frustration we cannot do much. If you both want to change the indian constiution, remember one thing. YOU CAN CHANGE IT. But it will take time.

If you are IMPATIENT, and want to see the results tomorrow, it wont help. It wont take you anywhere. It will only result in - er - wasted blog space.